The Tire Feathering Thread
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Just dropped my car off to have the tire roar problem corrected (or delayed). After going several rounds with an idiot service advisor, I spoke to the dealer principal and service manager. The service manager was very knowledgable on the subject. He told me that the Harris equipment described in the TSB is the only way to go to remount and balance the tire without damaging the sensors. In fact, he said none of the local Nissan dealers have this equipment and most across the country do not. He is going to remove the wheels and take them to a local performance shop (who does have the Harris equipment). He advised not to let a Nissan dealer work on this TSB unless they have the proper equipment. He said many will say they can handle the job, but will not be able to properly follow the TSB. So be warned when you are looking into this.
He also said that depending on the degree of cupping on my threads (I have just over 10k miles), he may just give me new tires. In fact, he said he will probably do this anyway. I asked how many times he would give me new tires and he said "until Nissan comes up with a fix".
I will let you know how it goes.
He also said that depending on the degree of cupping on my threads (I have just over 10k miles), he may just give me new tires. In fact, he said he will probably do this anyway. I asked how many times he would give me new tires and he said "until Nissan comes up with a fix".
I will let you know how it goes.
I'm with you gdojr on the "never finding a fix". I just got my new tires on because of the cupping TSB. The tire roar was unbelievable. People would stare when I started slowing down at the stoplights. Good grief how embarrasing. I wouldn't mind getting new tires every 10-15k miles.
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Atleast until I get my new wheels and tires I should be good for quite awhile.
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When I got my new tires, I noticed the steering seemed stiffer. However that may have been from the connecting rod they replaced for the "drift right" problem (don't remember the TSB #). It is nice to have quiet ride at 25 mph again. We'll see it if stays that way.
The service manager told me he is going to check the alignment at every oil change.
The service manager told me he is going to check the alignment at every oil change.
Originally posted by Steve350Z@Apr 24 2004, 07:37 AM
funny thing i find about it, i haven't heard that the feathering actually affects the performance of the tire, just that it makes more road noise. simple solution for that is to turn up the radio, no more road noise![]()
The only bad part about that was the tire roar was so bad I couldn't turn the radio up loud enough to drown the noise
gdojr, even though I didn't get the connecting replaced I could definately tell a difference in handling. There was alot more grip without the fear of the tires slipping around hard corners.
I may have to suggest the techs check the alignment every oil change too.
Bogart,
If they did not replace the connecting rod (I hope I am referring to it correctly), you should take your Z out on the highway, get in the left hand lane at around 60 to 65 mph and see if it changes to the right hand lane on its own in 6 seconds. Make sure you are on a level road, not one with a crown. If it makes the lane change, you need the connecting rod.
My service manager said it was important because if you do have the "drift right" condition, it must be repaired for the alignment (feathering) issue to be correctly resolved. If not, the feathering will return.
If they did not replace the connecting rod (I hope I am referring to it correctly), you should take your Z out on the highway, get in the left hand lane at around 60 to 65 mph and see if it changes to the right hand lane on its own in 6 seconds. Make sure you are on a level road, not one with a crown. If it makes the lane change, you need the connecting rod.
My service manager said it was important because if you do have the "drift right" condition, it must be repaired for the alignment (feathering) issue to be correctly resolved. If not, the feathering will return.
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TOYKILLA how abought an update on your tires.
have the goodyears feathered yet ??????????
after my freebie **** ass bridgstones my third set i am looking towards michelon or whatever.
have the goodyears feathered yet ??????????
after my freebie **** ass bridgstones my third set i am looking towards michelon or whatever.
To my knowledge they didn't replace any parts except for the crank position sensor at that time. I had done that test when I first heard about the feathering issue and before the tire roar became apparent and it drove as straight as a line. When the tire roar became really bad I tested it again and it still drove straight. There wasn't a noticeable change in the driving line. That's the main reason I never took it in earlier than when I did. I got tired of the tire roar so I knew there was something wrong. Now after they put new tires on I've taken it out to test the driving line, and there doesn't seem to be any difference than before.
Now my question is should I request to have the connecting rod replaced or have them keep replacing my tires until they figure out the fix.
I don't mind getting new tires every 10,000 miles but I also don't want to get screwed and have them tell me they're not going to replace them anymore. That particular dealership is really bad about not wanting to fix things. I basically had to threaten to call Nissan personally to report my crank sensor problem. They bowed down to me after that and replaced my tires. LOL!
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i have an 03 jinxxycat.
and have gotton the orgional tsb done twice .
im just waiting on the letter they supposively sent out.
but i bet the house the problem will return after the new tsb
and have gotton the orgional tsb done twice .
im just waiting on the letter they supposively sent out.
but i bet the house the problem will return after the new tsb
Originally posted by Bogart@May 18 2004, 01:15 AM
Now my question is should I request to have the connecting rod replaced or have them keep replacing my tires until they figure out the fix.![]()
If you do not drift right, then you do not need the connecting rod.
I have about 1500 miles on my new fronts. Have not noticed anything yet, but I am sure it will return. TK put new springs (Eibach, I think he said) and tires on his. Last time I asked him, he had not had the problem come back.
TK, any updates?
Did feathering continue after installing bigger rims and tires? I think i'm gonna have to go for my second set of front tires.. it's bumpy and looks like it's wearing from the outside more. I still have the stock rims/tires, If i get 19" or 20" it's going to be expensive replacing tires my self.
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feathering stopped when i installed my nismo wheels...
i have also seen it stop in SOME CASES with springs being installed
i have also seen it stop in SOME CASES with springs being installed
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I believe the problem is with 'toe-in' & not camber....
You shld take your car in for alignment...if out of wty., do it AFTER the new wheels.
FW alignment is touchy on these cars, & I'm told the good machine to use is a newer Hunter. The local (@sshole) dealer here sent my car out to a shop with the proper equip., warranteed the alignment, we're still fighting over tires...
You shld take your car in for alignment...if out of wty., do it AFTER the new wheels.
FW alignment is touchy on these cars, & I'm told the good machine to use is a newer Hunter. The local (@sshole) dealer here sent my car out to a shop with the proper equip., warranteed the alignment, we're still fighting over tires...
Make them find a shop with the Hunter equipment. Also make sure they check the connecting rod TSB (pulls to the right).
http://www.350z-tech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=784
If you have the pull right condition, the tire feathering fix will not work.
http://www.350z-tech.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=784
If you have the pull right condition, the tire feathering fix will not work.
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