[i8acobra]

QUOTE (scrapser @ Oct 30 2008, 05:20 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=558426

Until now, every new Z car generation was a brand new design (240Z, 300Z, 350Z). This is the first time they tried to evolve a prior generation. The result, like so many posts I've read indicate, is a mixed bag. Some things look good, some completely out of place, some so-so, etc). I hope the next generation (if there is one) will be a complete redesign. The 350Z looks good because it is a 350Z. The 370Z looks like a car suffering from multiple identity disorder. It doesn't stand on its own.

Soooo, are we just ignoring the 260Z and 280Z(X)?

 

[fairlady52]

to me, nothing special for the exterior but +1 for interior. maybe aftermarket bodykits will fix it up. currently 350z roadtax already killing me, for 370z i think i will not get this if i got the chance to change new car. i prefer if they lower the 3.5 liter to 3.2 turbocharged, haha then i will consider. mods on NA realy cost alots to gain whp.

 

[scrapser]

No not at all. Those cars were not significantly different from the 240. The body underwent a major overhaul at the 300 and 350 iterations. Nothing about the 300 looks like the 240, 260, or 280 just as nothing about the 350 looks like the 300 and its subsequent follow-ons. But the 370 is essentially a minaturized 350Z.

 

[i8acobra]

QUOTE (scrapser @ Oct 30 2008, 07:23 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=558431

No not at all. Those cars were not significantly different from the 240. The body underwent a major overhaul at the 300 and 350 iterations. Nothing about the 300 looks like the 240, 260, or 280 just as nothing about the 350 looks like the 300 and its subsequent follow-ons. But the 370 is essentially a minaturized 350Z.

Well, that's what I'm saying... the 370 looks like an evolved 350, just like the 260 was an evolved 240 and the 280 and evolved 260.

 

[scrapser]

I see your point and yet I still see mine. I guess it's a matter of asking what constitutes a new generation (sort of like version control numbering when revising software). Since the 370Z is actually a different platform from the 350Z, I'm looking at it as the next generation vehicle but this time retaining the recognizable shape of the 350Z.

The 240, 260, and 280 could be called the 200 series but the 300, 350, and 370 cannot be called a series because they are all different platforms. To blur things further, the 370 has been modeled to retain the 350's appearance while incorporating hints of the 200 series, so it's an across platform design in many respects. I think this may be why some people look at the car with mixed feelings.

For myself, I was hoping for something that visually made sense and would stand on its own. But that's not happening. It looks so much like the 350 I get a "why bother?" reaction. Comparing the two visually, I think the 350 has a more "together" and solid appearance. The 370 may have higher performance numbers but those attributes can only be enjoyed on a track unless you're young and dumb and like getting speeding or reckless driving tickets. Otherwise, you're just getting more of something you can't really use 99% of the time. So that puts it all back on looks and for me, the 370Z looks flakey.

This is why I hope the next, true new generation Z will be a fresh design and I will keep my 350 until it arrives.

 

[Z You Later]

QUOTE (scrapser @ Oct 30 2008, 11:05 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=558435

I see your point and yet I still see mine. I guess it's a matter of asking what constitutes a new generation (sort of like version control numbering when revising software). Since the 370Z is actually a different platform from the 350Z, I'm looking at it as the next generation vehicle but this time retaining the recognizable shape of the 350Z.

The 240, 260, and 280 could be called the 200 series but the 300, 350, and 370 cannot be called a series because they are all different platforms. To blur things further, the 370 has been modeled to retain the 350's appearance while incorporating hints of the 200 series, so it's an across platform design in many respects. I think this may be why some people look at the car with mixed feelings.

For myself, I was hoping for something that visually made sense and would stand on its own. But that's not happening. It looks so much like the 350 I get a "why bother?" reaction. Comparing the two visually, I think the 350 has a more "together" and solid appearance. The 370 may have higher performance numbers but those attributes can only be enjoyed on a track unless you're young and dumb and like getting speeding or reckless driving tickets. Otherwise, you're just getting more of something you can't really use 99% of the time. So that puts it all back on looks and for me, the 370Z looks flakey.

This is why I hope the next, true new generation Z will be a fresh design and I will keep my 350 until it arrives.

+1 on that

 

[dad]

Jesus Christ! "No one would be bitchin if it were parked in their driveway"!

 

[Z You Later]

QUOTE (dad @ Oct 30 2008, 04:01 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=558448

Jesus Christ! "No one would be bitchin if it were parked in their driveway"!

well if it was in your driveway you shouldn't be bitching since you bought it haha

 

[dad]

QUOTE (Z you later @ Oct 30 2008, 04:39 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=558452

well if it was in your driveway you shouldn't be bitching since you bought it haha

Nope! I'd be driving her! :shiftdrive:

 

[Z You Later]

i would really have to see one in person to make any judgement...in photos i'm not a fan of it but sometimes things tend to grow on you in person...

worst case i'd do an engine swap!

 

[dad]

QUOTE (Z you later @ Oct 30 2008, 04:48 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=558454

i would really have to see one in person to make any judgement...in photos i'm not a fan of it but sometimes things tend to grow on you in person...

worst case i'd do an engine swap!

Seeing one in person, will probably change a lot of minds! Photos, vs. on the lot, make a big difference.

 

[NoZYet]

New bumper and tail might be needed, but there will be an 2009 in my driveway sometime in 2010. I love the 240Z hints. Kinda stays in touch with the Z, but not retro like the 'Stang, Challenger or Camaro. Yah, the power's not really needed, but she may see track time, and it'd also be nice to go to shorter gearing. Plus, honestly, I think it'll be the best car < $40k

~Pat

 

[zi0matrlx]

This thing is so god awful ugly that it resurrected me into the forums. I'll have to risk my membership here and say that it looks like ABSOLUTE ****. First off, what's with the Ogre Teeth in the front bumper? If I remember right, when the 350z came out, every other car int he Nissan Lineup "took styling queues from the sporty 350z." Now they've got it assbackwards. Styling queues are now taking from the Maxima... Seriously, those headlights and tail lights look ridiculous and very maxima ish. It's like they couldn't decide wheather they should go vertical or horizontal. Whoever designed this needs to be shot with a .22 over and over again until he/she dies a slow painful death. Way to bastardize lines that were from an old S30Z which in no way matches at all. Sure, lets give it a really short rear end that looks like it has curled into an assball so it'll "look" like the old 240z. They did however forget to elongate the front...Oh wait, it used to be an inline 6 too WHAT ABOUT THAT?!

Ugh, rant over. I know I sound like an ass, but meh I'll stick to a 350 thank you.

 

[Z334ME]

Some poeple need to calm down. If you don't like it, don't buy it.

I personally am on the fence about it, but I'm sure it will grow on me in person. I felt the same way about the 350 when it first came out.

 

[steve350z]

nissan could have done a lot better. glad i will be keeping my Z

 

[yoshi]

I bet 75% of the haters will change their minds once they see it on the road daily and in person.

I HATED the looks of the Z back when I was just getting into cars, and I never wanted to buy one until I actually saw a few up close, and then test drove later on. It took 3 years for it to grow on me, but it did. It was my favorite car upon buying and has been ever since.

When I first saw it back in 2003, all I could say was "omfg thats the ugliest headlights Ive ever seen on a car, can you say doesnt match the lines? Even the tail lights came out of nowhere- whats with the stretched upside down triangle?! How bubbly of a design can you get? Why does the side skirting area and the back bumper have to tuck in like that? It coulda been so much more aggressive! And that front end overall is just so plain and bleh looking, and the reflectors look like the designer was drunk when he drew out the placement and shape. They did the Z32 a horrible injustice by evolving into this, shoulda stuck to the older way."

Sounds alot like everyone is now. I think everyone is prematurely hating on the car honestly. To each their own, but that means Im entitled to my own opinion about everyone too XD



EDIT: No I dont exactly like the new Z, BUT I will wait until its been around for at least what 6 months? a year? before I start slamming it. Seems fair huh?

 

[smoothz]

QUOTE (Toykilla @ Oct 29 2008, 10:16 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=558355

I love it.. Definitely progressive.

The more I see it or look at different pics, the more I like it. Final judgement will be when I see it in person.

 

[Zforce]

I will need to see it in the flesh, later this month at the unveiling in San Francisco.

 

[pumpkinhead]

EDIT: No I dont exactly like the new Z, BUT I will wait until its been around for at least what 6 months? a year? before I start slamming it. Seems fair huh?
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Think of it as "hazing"................j/k.

 

[jezza]

I have to say, I haven't really liked the 370 up until now, but after reading the design study thread, I have to say i'm converted! once you look at the design comparing it to the 240, as a pose to the 350, the new shape makes complete sense, and dare I say, in side by side comparison, suddenly makes the 350 design look a bit.... dated?

It's sort of taken the design away from the classic beauty of the 350z to more the brutal beauty of the GTR. When the official GTR pictures first came out I hated pretty much everything about it bar the tail lights, but once I gotten used to it, I love it. I think the new Z will be the same kind of thing, provided it has the performance figures to back it up.

I guess if you hate the whole "rehashing an old design" deal ala mustang etc, then you wont like this, but for me, I love the idea of a "new" 240... Just a pity they couldn't cut more weight out of it. But then the whole Z series after the 240 have always been portly. Nissan still seem to get the job done though, even with the extra weight.

I am really loving the side profile, so compact and purposeful!