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the all new Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano offers the F1-Superfast paddle shifter tranny as an option, with a 6-speed manual as the base offering. the F1-S technology allows for manual paddle shifts, or fully automatic shifting according to what mode the driver sets the gearbox. in manu-paddle mode, the upshifts are attainable in 100 milliseconds --only 50ms slower than an actual F1 race car.

i think that speculation over "either/or," for manual or automatic GTRs may be solved via this system or one adapted from it. i have speculated earlier that the GTR will come in model variants, with requistie tranny options available. a paddle shift/automatic option may be offered, then, as ONE thing, as is proven on the 599 GTB. so i maintain that the old-reliable 6-spd, full clutch manual, will be offered as the "base" GTR.
 

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Sounds legit....but how can you gauge what Nissan will do by Ferrari?
 

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My question is, "Would the general consumer market be ready for paddle shifting?" We all know that some pricks out there think buying a high end sportscar with a huge price tag comes with a license to drive like they're trained pros. :nono: I can see a lot of accidents or stunts gone wrong.

However, I'm all for paddles as an expensive option reserved for those really willing to pay the extra and have that elite luxury.
 

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it's not only Ferrari using this. but it is yet another supercar company to jump onboard to this feature. the arrows point to this direction.

it follows to reason that Nissan is building an out of the box Ferrari-like supercar. therefore, it will then seek out technology that is of the upmost edge over other cars. and to maintain it's reputation and actual performance with Ferrari and Porshe-level enthusiasts, it cannot afford to languish in the past. paddle-shift is here to stay.

you must remember that the paddle technology in general is NOT new; it has been employed in F-class race cars for years. Ferrari is not all the only company to have since adapted this to roadcar use. you must then ask the question: "how can you gauge what Ferrari will do by F1?" and they have. as has Aston Martin's Vanquish, Maserati, BMW, Lamborghini, even Toyota (MR2 Spyder), Audi A3, VW R32, Corvette Z06.

Nissan's GTR may have a variant of the BorgWarner and Volkswagen AG-developed DSG --the direct shift gearbox (DSG), featuring 2 wet-plate clutches. the F1-S of the Ferrari is a dry-plate system (IIRC).
 

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please consider, too, that about the only country not "getting it" about paddle shifts is the united states. it's already largely embraced anywhere else enthusiasts live. but don't despair, i strongly feel the 6-speed manual will be the base offer, with paddle shift being the option, particularly with the fully-auto "mode."
 

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Not all paddle shifting is F1-like either....it's just tip-tronic next to the steering wheel instead of the "stick"
 

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that is correct. but i think in the case of the GTR, it will be more akin to the F1-S of the Ferrari --true manual paddle shifting with the option of a button selection to go fully auto. this will be particularly appealing to american buyers, imho. we're still more than likely going to see the 6-speed manual anyway.
 

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I think the general consumer is ready, Bmw already has it in a few models. And from what it sounds like the GTR is going to be as pricey as most BMW's so why wouldnt they get the paddle shift in there as well.
 

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Even the paddle shifters in the supercars don't shift as perfect as a fully manual car does, mainly on the downshifts reguarding rev matching. It is for this reason that I think the GTR will for sure come with a six speed manual transmission. However I don't think that paddle shifters are out of the question for the GTR, but definitely an option if we see them.
 

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Latest rumor hints at a 6 speed auto clutch like that of the Ferrari's. Can't say that I wouldn't like to see it on a GT-R as an option of course, but it's rather unlikely.
 

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it's going to be on par with what Ferrari is doing, i can lay money on that. the engineers at Nissan are fully aware of the millisecond-level shifting of F1 style transmissions. this is crucial to implement to maintain dominance over Porsche; it will at least be a variant. the GTR is an exotic. so expect exotic-car level mechanicals. this may include:

--MR/active suspension a la Ferrari and Corvette,
--variable geo/electronic assist turbos a la Porsche, but with virtually zero-lag --beyond which Porsche claims for it's 997tt,
--bonded sectional super-light monocoque via Lotus,
--eAWD, via independent electronic motor drivers per wheel in front
--optional non-shifting variable transmission with 6 or 7 speed manual option; or fully manual paddle with automatic "mode."
--superHICAS variant
--V8tt
 

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i know its not as popular as paddle but i would like to see a sequential up/down shifter rather than paddle
 

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i would have to agree with you.

don't mistake my broadcasting of possible "evidence" for paddle shift to be one and the same as "desire" for it. i'm personally turned off by paddle. but it may be entirely due to my lack of exposure and use of it.

give me my manual shifting GTR, please. in gunmetal grey.
 

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you guys have to keep in mine that the possibility of paddle shifting will be with 7 sequential tranny, not 6. My guess would be that a 6MT will be a base (if they even offer one) and 7 seq tranny will be like an upgraded version. the auto version would have the same gearing, if not shorter.
 

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i agree w/you and have made nearly the very same statements in prior posts. yet i believe, as in the case of the 599 Ferrari the sequential 6 or 7 speed gearbox will have an automatic mode. the seq and man will be within the same tranny; with --yes-- the traditional 6spd fully manual available as a base model.

i fully believe the GTR will have model variants. and this means tranny options.

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i agree w/you and have made nearly the very same statements in prior posts. yet i believe, as in the case of the 599 Ferrari the sequential 6 or 7 speed gearbox will have an automatic mode. the seq and man will be within the same tranny; with --yes-- the traditional 6spd fully manual available as a base model.

i fully believe the GTR will have model variants. and this means tranny options.

cheers

would you take the 7SMG over the 6MT if it really was an option.


to be 100% honest im not sure as of right now but i would do
 

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If the GTR is a sequential trans. it will definitely be a 7-speed seq. Sadly however, if I dont have a clutch then it makes me feel like im driving something with the training wheels on.

Like Bonzelite said, "give me my manual shifting GTR, please. in gunmetal grey." :headshake:
 

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would you take the 7SMG over the 6MT if it really was an option.
to be 100% honest im not sure as of right now but i would do
**** **** no.

as i said, give me my 6speed manual. like in the case of the Audi RS4. it's available ONLY in 6speed manual (and N/A V8) --there is no other option. that would be excellent if Nissan did that, too. **** Ferrari. i'm only speculating about the paddle shift manu/auto combo thing. i hope to dear god it isn't true.

the GTR "should" remain:

TT
manual ONLY
AWD
AWS

V6 or V8 i'd take either. regardless, the GTR needs to remain powerful and raw and true to that heritage. it is not a ***** Infiniti.
 
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