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Chazz - In ZCCA National competitions, it is not the number of modifications that count. It is a concourse show. It is the attention to detail and detailing that count. The number uf visible upgrades only determines the class you are in. A better detailed car will win everytime. We are talking about a little rust on the head of a bolt is a deduction. As a certified judge and Nissan Gold Medallion / Gold Cup judge, I can spend hours on the subject.

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For the person who stated I would win because I was the Convention Chairman - That is total $%%^&. I was not the car show event manager and the judges are selected from ZCCA member clubs. The judges for each class is determined by experience and selected by the ZCCA Car SHow Chairman. It is also to be noted that both my cars in the show we never touched by me during and the days prior to the shaw as I was running a convention. I had my race tech do all the work.

In modified classes you can change anything out with out a deduction. It is the detailing. BUT ------ Anything that did not come from the factory is a visible option. Even NISMO add on parts are 100% dealer or end user installed.

In the category that covers wheels. It also covers brakes as part of that. It is in the description per the Modified class ZCCA Chair. Winter rules is the fact that incidental road rust and and slight dirt on the undercarriage is acceptable. The back side of the wheels still has to be cleaned and the rotors as well. IT comes down to detailing.

I find it humorous that people think the cars were judged so I can win. That is crazy. I already have achieved the highest level award in Nissan shows. I entered because I supported the convnetion. In fact, nobody ven sees the scores until the ZCCA Chairman hands them to me at the closing banquet for announcement. I got my score sheets and they took deductions off on my car that items my tech missed. I was not thrilled as I could have taken some of the speciality awards as well. The judges on my class we not from the local club.

The key is visit the ZCCA web site and download the rules and process for the show.

In any game it is best to understand the playing field. I have been doing ZCCA national shows for 7+ years. I am also the recipient fo Gold Medallion #12.

After seven years you know how to play the game and how to do better. CHAZZ, Send me your scoresheets and I can review them.

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On brakes and wheels - Per the Chairman for the ZCCA on the car show, The wheels section includes the brakes. On a 10 point system, a 5 point deduction is average.

A suggestion has already been made to the ZCCA Car Show chairman to further define the categories.

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Scratches on rotors and dirt is on te non pad surfaces. most people in a National ZCCA Event will take the wheels off and clean the whole brake and back sides of the wheels. Remember my earleir comment - attendtion to detailing counts.

At every shoew my crew will spend hours on each corner of the car. Then at the show take the wheels of and wipe any dirt that accumulated on the drive up.

This attention is how you win ZCCA national events and afer the car is 10+ years old a Gold Medallion or Gold Cup.

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If people remember, My did every session on the track the next day and ran over a skunk to boot. Before shows we spend alot of time getting the car ready for the show. Beforew track events we work performance.

As for judges, Only about 2 crews were from the New England Club. No crew can have more than one person from the same club. I did not maange the car show and did not determine who judged what class. In our class no one from the ZCCNE were judges.

If I remember correctly the 350Z Nissan Mod class was very close. I will have to look at the scores that were posted.

Long Beach will use the same process. BUT each year we strive to make things better. Immedately after 03 we started post mortum discuusions to improve 04.

Bling does win import shows - but our win percentage with our two cars is over 90 % and we place at every show. We concentrate on the pro events and no longer do the HIN series as the judging is a total joke. Even our sponsors requested we not do them.

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