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Hawk or Greenstuff

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Folks,

Like so many others I've had enough of the dust that the standard brake pads produce so am going to get the fronts replaced. I believe either Hawk or Greestuff are the ones to get.

So my question is which one? I've been told the Greemstuff pads will cost me around $200 for the front pair. I don't know what the Hawks are worth.

Any experiemce with these?

TIA
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Maybe you should consider Endless NA-R, I think Mr_Rizk has them as well (as far as I can recall). I drove his car and I didn't hear any squealing. I've not seen any bad reports about them, but they cost more then others.
Hi Guys,

Well, I wart ahead & got Some Greenstuff pads the other week. So far they're not too bad although I have had some squealing which is a bit annoying. They do throw less dust & I will Keep you posted on the noise side of things. As I had the disks machined at the Same time so hopefully they settle in & stop squeaking.

Cheers
They will settle. I turned my rotors at my friends shop and installed the green stuff pads. Then took a 2k mile road trip. They squealed the first 1.5k miles and now they are super quiet.
Originally posted by The Z@Jun 26 2005, 06:39 AM
Hi Guys,

Well, I wart ahead & got Some Greenstuff pads the other week. So far they're not too bad although I have had some squealing which is a bit annoying.  They do throw less dust & I will Keep you posted on the noise side of things. As I had the disks machined at the Same time so hopefully they settle in & stop squeaking.

Cheers
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Just wondering how much you paid it for? just a future references, or other preferences than Nissan Brake pads.

Cheers
EBC Greenstuff for non Bremo (Font's) was ~ $53 here in the states
All right, now I am all torn up.
I have a set of new rotors and Greenstuff pads ready to install but after reading the ebc site http://www.ebcbrakes.com/Automotive.html , I am not sure if I should get the RedStuff instead. Keep in mind, I have had no issues with the stock pads (other than dust) in any of my driving experiences, including monthly mountain runs.

Here is what is says

GreenStuff: Sport & Premium Street Brakes
Fast/Heavy Street Use
Brake well from cold
Effective to above 650°C
Lower dust formula* (read below)
Designed for premium street driving offering better brake effect at loads and speed. EBC Greenstuff has a high initial brake effect and gives drivers confidence from first application of the brake pedal. There is no such thing as a NO DUST pad. The very nature of how a brake works requires that some dust be generated to avoid rotor vibration (shimmying). The EBC pad creates less dust and dust is more easily washed off than most. All pads create more dust as they are bedding in especially if rotors are worn. Average friction coefficient 0.55
RedStuff: Highly Tuned Cars/Faster Street Driving
Since this material was introduced in late 2003, it has received many positive write ups from performance drivers of faster cars such as the Impreza. You can read some of these write ups and comparisons to other performance materials on www.scoobynet.co.uk and www.subiegal.com. This is a truly impressive fast road pad for repeated heavy braking. It emits far less dust than semi-metallic pads and has been proven to stop a saloon car 13 metres quicker than OEM pads from 100mph/160kph.
Features EBC Brake-InTM surface coating which conditions rotor surface and accelerates pad bed-in.
Average friction coefficient 0.5
Reading the description it seems like the GreenStuff pads are for lighter vehicles (and certainly my 72 Mini qualifies and GreenStuff pads works great on that) and RedStuff is for faster, heavier cars.

I guess my question is, do you guys think the GreenStuff would be better than stock pads anyway, so since i have had no issues, they will be fine. Or, should I send these back and trade for RedStuff pads just to be sure.

Obviously I am leaning toward keeping the ones I have on the shelf but don't want to regret it and end up paying for two sets of pads later.

Chris
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HS - If you're happy with the performance characteristics of the OEM Nissan pads, then I'm sure you won't be let down by either the Green or Red pads, as you have yet to exceed the temp characteristics of the stock pads.

The reality is that untill you put the pads on your car, you won't know how satisfied / dissatisfied you'll be with each pad. But I'm guessing that with general street / occasional mountain driving, the EBC pads will suit you fine.
Thanks KY350, I was thinking the same thing but wanted to bounce the idea off the people here before I soil the rotors with GrrenStuff.

I am gonna go with the GreenStuff since they are already in hand and if I smoke them, I'll do something different next time.

Chris
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