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An old boss of mine had a great expression - when ever he was enjoying something or getting great pleasure out of an experience, he would exclaim "this is better than sex". He would have enjoyed the APS 350Z TT. I don't quite put the Z in that category but it is up there somewhere.

I have put about 700k's on mine since late last week when I got it back, off the TNT transport from Melbourne to Perth and have enjoyed every one of them. I love cars, and the driving experience, and my new Z will definitely see me taking the long way home for a long while yet.

IMO the TT Z is close to the complete car. It just looks so good and now performs like a $200k car. Drive it "normally" and it behaves perfectly sedately. Put your foot down and everything lights up. I have had to switch off traction control as it was still coming on in third gear! A little chirp of the tyres is better than a stuttering loss of power.

The exhaust note is just perfect. It reminds me a bit of the Hi-Tech I removed to install the TT which comes complete with its own exhaust. The TT exhaust is a little more gruff with a deeper note to it, and is by no means loud or intrusive but signals something extra.

At idle you can just hear the turbo's whining softly. Increase revs and they start spooling up with an infectious sound, again not loud, but signaling intent. It's a bit like a mainline of adrenalin connected to the accelerator. At this point, keep repeating "I have to drive responsibly" or you'll get carried away.

First gear comes and goes very quickly, second really gives the rush and third and fourth are just sublime. I enjoyed the linear power of my standard Z. It never seemed as quick as it really was. Being pushed back into one's seat by a turbocharged car is something else though. A quick change between first and second at top revs will cause the rear to break away and spin the tyres if you are not careful. Turbo lag is non existant. Power is smooth and even all the way through.

Overtaking power is incredible. Drop back to third or fourth gear and get blown away. Torque is unbelievable. If working through the gears wasn't so much fun, one could potter around in 6th gear with heaps of power on tap when required.

Apart from 275/18 rears and 235/18 front tyres on Ray's rims, my car is a standard touring model without any frills except now for some serious power. It will offer a few surprises when challenged, I'm sure.

Under the bonnet the TT is neat and tidy, right down to the stainless steel windscreen washer bottle which replaces the Nissan plastic one, due to the extra space taken up by the inter cooler or air intake.

At $15k the conversion isn't cheap, but at $75k I don't know of another car that could offer similar looks and performance. 0 - 100 should be around mid 4 seconds which is serious stuff, 911 turbo style.

Congratulations APS on a job well done.

The downside of the conversion of course is whether the motor, clutch and gearbox will hold together. The gearbox seems tough and I think will be fine. The clutch probably will require replacing first, but time will tell. If I can get a good 5 years out of the motor, it will have all been worth it. If the last 5 days is any guide to enjoyable driving, I am looking forward to the next 5 years. I hope APS are right with their assessment of the rods. Given proper tuning and not over stressing them by keeping compression lower, that they will last.

What a difference a couple of snails make.
 

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:drool: The more I hear and read about APS, the more I want it. Need...double...income...
 

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Nice one Malcolm. Good to see you're enjoying it.... *******!!!

LOL j/k - I'm enjoying the new plenum too :)
 

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Originally posted by malcolm@Dec 7 2004, 11:48 PM

Congratulations APS on a job well done.

The downside of the conversion of course is whether the motor, clutch and gearbox will hold together.  The gearbox seems tough and I think  will be fine.  The clutch probably will require replacing first, but time will tell.  If I can get a good 5 years out of the motor, it will have all been worth it.  If the last 5 days is any guide to enjoyable driving, I am looking forward to the next 5 years.  I hope APS are right with their assessment of the rods.  Given proper tuning and not over stressing them by keeping compression lower, that they will last.

What a difference a couple of snails make.

Well awesome to hear that your pleased with the APS twin Turbo System Malcolm.................I thought I would have heard from you by now and I'm just so pleased to hear that you're thrilled with the APS enhanced Z car. :thumbsup:

Malcolm on the engine I'm still quietly confident that the engine will be durable if the boost pressure is maintained to a sensible limit (around 7 to 8 PSI) and that the engine is tuned to the correct fuel octane that the owner uses. That said a better set of stronger forged or billet rods would be a very worthwhile investment particularly if you give the car a good work out in the higher rpm frequently at club track days (club sprints/circuit racing).

I have no doubt that the stock clutch will be the first mechanical fuse though luckily there are many good choices in the aftermarket area to upgrade the stock clutch at an affordable price. There are many good twin plate streetable ctuches and I will test a number of brands very soon so we can make recommendation to our customers who need to upgrade from the stock clutch in the future.

For what it's worth I definitely would not recommend you lower the stock comp ratio on the Oz model Z car (given the high quality on the 98 RON octane premium unleaded fuel in Oz) as the higher static comp ratio provides more instant power, the best off boost engine response, and retains the best possible fuel economy.

Again Malcolm many thanks for your kind words pertaining to the APS TT system and I hope you greatly enjoy the Twin Turbo Z car for many years. :cheers:

Peter

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Well I can second everything Malcolm said as he was kind enough to let me take it for a drive yesterday... DAAAAAAAAAM!!

Driving my N/A Z now feels like a Lada Niva in terms of acceleration and sounds like a Barbara Streisand concert in comparison with the increased power and torque and VERY addictive turbo sounds of Malcolms APS Z... and the best thing was while driving it sedately i couldnt even tell that it was a TT - apart from the occasional wooosh depending on the revs... but plant the foot and the car slingshots you into no-more-licence territory very quickly hehe..

I think I will definitely be giving Peter @ APS a call in the new year sometime !!!!!
 

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apart from the occasional wooosh depending on the revs

Why the 'wooosh' sound? I really don't like that sounds ... to me it makes to car sound like a cheap 180SX or Lancers down Chappel St. What does it take to remove this 'woosh' sound as for instance S15 does not have it at all, and that's part of what I really like about the S15 turbo.

Still, I gather theat a lot of people go out of their way for their cars to make the 'wooosh' sound .... though, I associate that with the 'doof doof' brigade.
 

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Just change the blow off valve to a diverter valve (plumb back) which should quieten things.
These days you can get the fully adjustable ones that do half and half to give the corect air flow readings and sound for those who want it...
 

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Originally posted by DavidM@Dec 7 2004, 07:37 PM
apart from the occasional wooosh depending on the revs

Why the 'wooosh' sound? I really don't like that sounds ... to me it makes to car sound like a cheap 180SX or Lancers down Chappel St. What does it take to remove this 'woosh' sound as for instance S15 does not have it at all, and that's part of what I really like about the S15 turbo.

Still, I gather theat a lot of people go out of their way for their cars to make the 'wooosh' sound .... though, I associate that with the 'doof doof' brigade.

nah its definitely NOT the gino ricer homeboy foolly sikk maaayte type of woosh...

its very quiet compared to some of the dipshits out there who have BOV's the size of bovines stapled to their WRX's etc..

If you had the windows up and the stereo on at all, you probably would not even hear it, let alone sound anything like the ricer guys..
 

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Originally posted by nang3@Dec 8 2004, 10:11 AM
Well I can second everything Malcolm said as he was kind enough to let me take it for a drive yesterday...  DAAAAAAAAAM!!

Driving my N/A Z now feels like a Lada Niva in terms of acceleration and sounds like a  Barbara Streisand concert in comparison with the increased power and torque and VERY addictive turbo sounds of Malcolms APS Z... and the best thing was while driving it sedately i couldnt even tell that it was a TT - apart from the occasional wooosh depending on the revs... but plant the foot and the car slingshots you into no-more-licence territory very quickly hehe..

I think I will definitely be giving Peter @ APS a call in the new year sometime !!!!!

Lovely to hear that you like the FEEL of the APS TT system on the Z car.

I know that many guys think that I stretch the truth when I say I'd rather drive the TT Z than my GT3 porsche on Sundays.............fact is the power and huge torque from the APS TT Z car is just so addictive it's one **** of a fun car to drive. :thumbsup:

Peter

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Nice right up Malcolm well written, welcome to the TT world whoooooooosh, pssssssh, smell the burning rubber. Maybe you should upgrade your brakes seeing you have the standard touring model?
 

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Originally posted by aps+Dec 7 2004, 08:51 PM-->
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@Dec 8 2004, 10:11 AM
Well I can second everything Malcolm said as he was kind enough to let me take it for a drive yesterday...  DAAAAAAAAAM!!

Driving my N/A Z now feels like a Lada Niva in terms of acceleration and sounds like a  Barbara Streisand concert in comparison with the increased power and torque and VERY addictive turbo sounds of Malcolms APS Z... and the best thing was while driving it sedately i couldnt even tell that it was a TT - apart from the occasional wooosh depending on the revs... but plant the foot and the car slingshots you into no-more-licence territory very quickly hehe..

I think I will definitely be giving Peter @ APS a call in the new year sometime !!!!!

Lovely to hear that you like the FEEL of the APS TT system on the Z car.

I know that many guys think that I stretch the truth when I say I'd rather drive the TT Z than my GT3 porsche on Sundays.............fact is the power and huge torque from the APS TT Z car is just so addictive it's one **** of a fun car to drive. :thumbsup:

Peter

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oh yeh, addictive is definitely the word for it haha !!!

Any more news/development on the single turbo setup Peter? I'm assuming it won't be putting out quite the same numbers as the TT and won't be linear, but will be cheaper and have more of a kick as the boost comes on????

I think its worth a flight over to Vic next year to testdrive them both when its FI o'clock for me hehe
 

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Originally posted by ZTRACK@Dec 8 2004, 01:22 PM
Nice right up Malcolm well written, welcome to the TT world whoooooooosh, pssssssh, smell the burning rubber. Maybe you should upgrade your brakes seeing you have the standard touring model?

David good to hear from you, how the TT Z car feel after the little engine tuning the other day?

Thanks

Peter
 
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