[mr rizk]

Couple of questions.

1/ If your doing front toe adjustment with toe plates you need to have the car level correct? If so then how do you reach the tie rods to do the adjustment without elevating the whole car? And no I will not be digging a pit in the garage.

2/ I have seen someone use the following style guage to do camber on the front of a car while elevated and the wheels off. I assume that the guage self levels like you need to manually with the bubble guage which is what I have seen used.

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Open to suggestions. I have tried to find some DIY laser alignment gear but no luck.

 

[Nuff]

http://pegasusautoracing.com/advcat.asp?CategoryID=ALIGNMENT here should be enough tools to keep you happy for a while.

For toe adjustment I like this one http://pegasusautoracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?RecId=3004 (i've not used it, i just like the design). For camber this one is good http://pegasusautoracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?RecId=1206 I think Nismo Pete uses very similar.

Here's cheaper alternative toe http://pegasusautoracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?RecId=2712 and camber (this one also has caster) http://pegasusautoracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?RecId=883

I don't think you can measure camber with the car on jacks. What you could do is get the camber reading when the wheel is on the floor, then get the camber reading when the wheel is off. Then if lets say you need to add .5 degree of camber to the initial reading, add it to the second reading and adjust it accordingly. I hope that makes sense.

As for toe, well, you can invest in a floor jack and cancel your gym membership

 

[mr rizk]

Nuff thanks a bundle for the links. Least it's all on one website. I have come accross most of these products. With the string toe gauge I thought this only could be used when the front and rear wheels are in line with each other ie: front and rear track are the same.

For camber adj. which you link above that nizmo pete uses something similar, I tested this out at revolution racegear and found that the holding pins would not fit the Z rim with the S03's I have. I tried it with 2 and 3 holding points with no luck thats why I was looking at the one I placed in the picture.

I still don't understand how you adjust the toe with the string method.

Do you.

1/ Use string method on ground
2/ Raise car and adjust
3/ Lower car
4/ Bounce car
5/ Re-measure
6/ Raise car adjust
7/ Lower car
8/ Bounce car
9/ Re-measure toe
10/ etc..

 

[Nuff]

Originally posted by MR RIZK@Aug 17 2005, 02:32 PM
Nuff thanks a bundle for the links. Least it's all on one website. I have come accross most of these products. With the string toe gauge I thought this only could be used when the front and rear wheels are in line with each other ie: front and rear track are the same.

Also in the photo for the Smart Strings Toe alignment tool they show a porsche with what looks like rear fender flares and as far as I know most 911s have different track front and rear (I could be wrong). You can just email them and get more information, I've bought few things from them before and they are very helpful.

Here are some better pictures and description. As you can see the front and rear tracks are different. I'm not quiet sure how the front toe would be adjusted, I guess that's what's covered in manual.

For camber adj. which you link above that nizmo pete uses something similar, I tested this out at revolution racegear and found that the holding pins would not fit the Z rim with the S03's I have. I tried it with 2 and 3 holding points with no luck thats why I was looking at the one I placed in the picture.

This is the one that nismo pete uses http://pegasusautoracing.com/ProductDetails.asp?RecId=1206, he has an aluminium pipe (one of the square ones) which fits the rim, you could make cuts in the pipe so the tire doesn't interfere with it. Then just line up the camber guage against the pipe.

I still don't understand how you adjust the toe with the string method.

Do you.

1/ Use string method on ground
2/ Raise car and adjust
3/ Lower car
4/ Bounce car
5/ Re-measure
6/ Raise car adjust
7/ Lower car
8/ Bounce car
9/ Re-measure toe
10/ etc..

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That's what you'll have to do with any toe adjustment, you might want to roll the car back and forth few times as well. The adventage of the string method is that your tires will always point forward and your car will not drive like a crab, if you know what I mean. Also with the Strings that I've shown you the link, you can leave them on the car while you raise and lower the car. That way you might have to raise/lower it a lot less then with other methods.

 

[Nuff]

I've just found the manual for smart strings, http://www.smartracingproducts.com/pdfdocs...ings_manual.pdf

The staggered track widths are not a problem.