[davidm]

I finally had the car aligned again, and few people were ineterested in what settings the Whiteline springs give you. I had it aligned to these settings:
- front camber = -1.45deg
- front toe-in = 1.0mm (total)
- rear camber = -2.0deg
- rear toe-in = 2.0mm (total)

The front camber is given by the springs as that is one thing that you cannot adjust.

 

[coatsie]

David

The negative camber is quite substantial. Are you concerned about tyre wear, especially on the inside of the rear tyre or do you think the toein will offset this to a large degree?

cheers
coatsie

 

[davidm]

The negative camber is quite substantial. Are you concerned about tyre wear, especially on the inside of the rear tyre or do you think the toein will offset this to a large degree?

Well, it all depends on how you drive ... for me -1.5deg to -2.0deg is not much and I get pretty even wear on my tyres. They now have 17,000km on them and the inside is no more worn than the outside.

Still, you're right about the toe-in as it does 'offset' the effect of the negative camber. Though, generaly speaking you'd need a bit more to 'balance' it out ... about 3 - 4mm would be ideal. I was running that before, but I wanted a lot less toe-in to (hopefully) make the car even more nimble and eager to turn. I'll see how it goes this Sunday when I'll be at Sandown.

 

[mickyboy]

The negative camber is quite substantial.

As David said, the camber you get from the factory is what you are stuck with. Although the lowering springs would have added a little more but I would guess very little.
But more to the point, the neg camber is far from being aggressive. Something more like -3 deg (more than double current set-up, I am only concerned with the front) is considered reasonable on most streeters. The problem with too much neg camber is the tyre wear, unless you drive aggressive all the time to counteract it.

I would like more neg camber but getting too old to dive like a maniac all the time!

A better way is positive castor which dials in neg camber but brings no problems in relation to longitudinal grip, tramlining or tyre wear. The only ill-effect is slightly increased steering effort - and this shouldn't be a problem due to power steering.

Now, too find an aftermarket castor kit???

 

[davidm]

As David said, the camber you get from the factory is what you are stuck with.

At the rear you can adjust it ... not sure what the range is, but it is adjustable. It's the front where you cannot adjust the camber at all.

Although the lowering springs would have added a little more but I would guess very little.

Just over -1deg was added by the springs. Before the springs I had about -0.4deg. The reason for me getting the springs was mainly the extra negative camber. -1.5deg is fine with me, but I would have been happy with -2.0deg.

Now, too find an aftermarket castor kit???

I think there are a couple around ... though when I was looking into it (ie. ~6 moths ago), they were all pretty expensive. Something like $900 for the parts and another $400 for the labor.

ps. A lot of HSVs run -3deg out of factory (at the rear).