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There's an brief article in the latest Motor mag in regards to them having the new Boxster S in the NSW Dutton rally, which took place a month or so ago. Dean Evans and Warren Luff partnered behind the wheel of the Boxster S and finished in the top 10 overal. Though, what really caught my eye are the lap-times from Eastern Creek and Wakefield. Motor mag claimed in the article that the Boxster S was on road tyres and I just find these times amazing if that is so:

Wakefield:
- Wareren Luff = 1:09.96
- Dean Evans = 1:11.77

Eastern Creek:
- Wareren Luff = 1:49.66
- Dean Evans = 1:51.66

I'm am a little bit sceptical about the tyres that they were using as thse times are not far off the GT3, M3 CSL (on R-spec tyres) and 911 Turbo S that they had on these tracks over the last year or so. Also if I remember correctly, you only get one session (ie. about 5 laps) to set the times during Dutton Rally, which makes the times that much more spectacular. If on road tyres then I much check out the the new Boxster S as it must be a huge leap over the previous model.

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They also run several 400m runs at WSDS (or whatever the drags ion Sydney are called) and came back with best time of 13.76sec for the Boxster S.
 

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I'm pretty sure when they say "road tyres" they mean road legal tyres, not the things porsche put on there.

The times sound good but not unbelievable if they are running dunlop DZ02G or bridgestone re55s.

But yes they only get 5 laps, warm up, warm down and 3 flying laps so it certainly helps having been there before. I bloke in a GTR skyline pulled a 1.07 on his first visit down there during dutton.

Here are the top 10 drivers and co-drivers from this year, all on street tyres:

1 Martin NOTARAS 2004 Whiteline EVO VIII RS B 1:06.99 0 0 1:06.99 1
38 Terry KNIGHT 2004 Porsche 996 Turbo C 1:07.00 0 0 1:07.00 2
53 Mark BERRY 1989 Nissan Skyline GTR A 1:07.24 0 0 1:07.24 3
2 Greg SUTTON 2004 Mitsubishi EVO VIII RS B 1:08.65 0 0 1:08.65 4
90 Max WILLIAMS 2003 Porsche GT3 C 1:09.04 0 0 1:09.04 5
55 Kim BURKE 2000 Porsche 996 Turbo C 1:09.08 0 0 1:09.08 6
45 Glenn SMITH 1999 Mitsubishi EVO VI B 1:09.40 0 0 1:09.40 7
33 Tony ESPLIN 2004 Porsche GT3 C 1:09.44 0 0 1:09.44 8
7 Reg JOHNSTON 2004 Porsche GT3 C 1:09.67 0 0 1:09.67 9
55 Peter FITZGERALD 2000 Porsche 996 Turbo C 1:06.43 0 0 1:06.43 1

1 Simon ARTHUR 2004 Whiteline EVO VIII RS B 1:06.89 0 0 1:06.89 2
2 Bernie WILSON 2004 Mitsubishi EVO VIII RS B 1:07.48 0 0 1:07.48 3
9 Rick BATES 2001 Holden Clubsport R8 F 1:07.63 0 0 1:07.63 4
16 Troy NICHOLSON 2001 Mitsubishi EVO VI B 1:08.72 0 0 1:08.72 5
17 Steve BURKE 2002 Mitsubishi EVO VII B 1:09.00 0 0 1:09.00 6
53 Russell NEWMAN 1989 Nissan Skyline GTR A 1:09.17 0 0 1:09.17 7
70 Warren LUFF 2005 Porsche Boxster S E 1:09.96 0 0 1:09.96 8
90 Ben WILLIAMS 2003 Porsche GT3 C 1:10.30 0 0 1:10.30 9
36 Stig RICHARDS 2004 Lotus Exige I 1:10.36 0 0 1:10.36 10
16 Neville SHEARS 2001 Mitsubishi EVO VI B 1:09.82 0 0 1:09.82 10
 

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The times sound good but not unbelievable if they are running dunlop DZ02G or bridgestone re55s.

Hi Duncan,
DZ02G and RE55 are R-spec tyres ... which is what I am suspicious that they were running despite what the mag said (or at least the way I understood it). Perfectly believable (and sstill impressive) times on R-spec tyres, but amazingly quick if on 'road tyres'.

Here are the top 10 drivers and co-drivers from this year, all on street tyres:

Again, I would not say that those cars were not on 'street tyres' (ie. road tyres) according to the way I understand the terminology. They were on street-legal tyres, but not what most people (and mags) call 'street tyres'. The article makes a special mention on how the Motor's Boxster S on 'street tyres' out performed most of the cars on semi-slicks. I'll have to look up the exact wording. Though, I take that as semi-slicks are R-spec tyres while 'street tyres' are something that most cars come with from the factory.

It's like me - I have track tyres, and street tyres. The street/road tyres are my OME RE040 while my track-tyres are R-spec RE55s.

ps. I'll have to have a gig around and see if I can find any close-up pics from Dutton Rally where we can see the tyres?
 

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I had it confirmed that the Boxster S was indeed on it's OME road tyres Michelin PilotSports2. So those times mentioned in the 1st post are what they managed with more or less stock car as it comes out of the factory ... I am super amazed by the capabilities of the new Boxster S.
 

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That time that Warren Luff did around Wakefield is a time that would be just about unbeatable by any driver, period.
Wakefield is not a long track & to beat Dean Evans (a driver I would rate as one of the best in the motoring press) by nearly 2 sec's is a super time.
I guess thats why Luff is partnering Ambrose at Sandown & Bathurst later this year & must be one of the contenders for his vacant spot in the Stone Bros team next year.
The best time Nathan did with our brand new 350Z in stock trim(Oct 02) but fitted with some used slicks was a 1.10.1
 

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David, I am also impressed by that time! I wonder how the Cayman S will go around there... the reviews are that it handles even better than teh Boxster (due to the rigidity of course).
 

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Wakefield is not a long track & to beat Dean Evans (a driver I would rate as one of the best in the motoring press) by nearly 2 sec's is a super time.

Yeah, I was a bit surprised by the 2sec gap as well. Though, Waren Luff is getting a lot of competitive track-time at the moment while Dean Evans is not. Though, I have heard that Dean Evans was in the Boxster S at Wakefield since then and he stripped over 1sec from his time ... so the gap now is more like 1sec between them in the same car.

I have no doubt that they are both supreme drivers.

The best time Nathan did with our brand new 350Z in stock trim(Oct 02) but fitted with some used slicks was a 1.10.1

Rick Bates (or Dean Evans) managed 1:11.9 out of a 100% stock 350Z on the OME tyres there. Both yours and their times sound very competitive.
 

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Are there any track days at Wakefield in August? I am driving up to Sydney this week and will be there for around 3-4 weeks, so will deinfetly have to make time to get down to Wakefield ;)
 

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Iggy - have you got your CAMS L2S? There's a CAMS day on the 19th at Eastern Creek.

There are plenty of regular open days at Wakefield Park though.
 

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Another interesting bit of info aboiut the new Boxster S at Wakfield ... the top speed that it mustered on the main straight was 176kph (true speed). That's 4kph up on the previous model and about the same as an M3 and HSV GTO.
 

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David stop it... or I might just go and buy one of those!

hehe, take a number ;-)
 

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Iggy - if you do come up and do some track work, let me know. I might come along.
 

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You bet mate! I am also going to do a "Stunt Driving Course" at eastern creek at some point in august. That should be fun! My buddies in Sydney gave that to me for my 25th! :)
 
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