[sphinx]

Hi All

I got this in my email today and thought it was odd:

"The new 350kW-plus GT-R super-car will be released in Japan in 2007. It will be on American showroom floors in 2008 with no final decision regarding if and when the GT-R will return to Australian shores."

Wonder whether they are acurate or not, it's on Nissan's website at least. I sure hope they do bring it to Australia rather then us having to import them.

Check it out at:

http://www.nissan.com.au/enews/editions/20...eNews/index.htm

Cheers,
Sphinx

 

[scathing]

Its always been a maybe.

We'll see if Nissan Australia grows a pair and brings in such an expensive piece of "Jap crap" again.

 

[sphinx]

Wondering have they announced anywhere else that the new GTR is going to have 350kW?

 

[mchapman]

Look at it this way, if they dont bring it in you will be able to import one on the grey market for less than it would be sold here. Bit more hassle though.

 

[tangomatt]

I wonder how much the new GTR would cost if Nissan Australia decides to proceed with its importation, considering the R32 retailed for $120,000 AUD when Nissan brought in a limited batch in the 1990s. I reckon the new GTR would be no less than $150,000 to 180,000 AUD if it became available in Aust showrooms.

 

[ky350]

Tangomatt - keep in mind that the 300ZX sold for around the same money (and even more at times) than a new 350Z does today.
So does that mean that the new GTR will sell for $120K - I doubt it very much. I believe that the price will be closer to $180K if it is ever sold here. Keep in mind that the GTR is targeted at the 911 Turbo which sells for around $350K. Also consider that the GTR will eat the new M3 which will probably sell for over $160K.

 

[mchapman]

The R34 was about $120,000 as sold in Japan, I remember reading an article on it when it came out. That doesnt mean it would be that price if sold here though. Au taxes and market pricing would have pushed it up alot higher.

 

[ky350]

So if R34 was $120K in Japan, how much is the Z in Japan. This may give a clue as to how much one might expect to pay for a new GTR in Aust.

 

[scathing]

The top-of-the-line 350Z in Japan is around AUD$45K.

Plus options, of course.

 

[blackzr]

I read somewhere that Nissan's selling point for the GTR was

"911 Turbo performance at 911 Carrera prices"

So guessing it'll be $180-$200K i'd say

 

[Domino]

I read somewhere that Nissan's selling point for the GTR was

"911 Turbo performance at 911 Carrera prices"

So guessing it'll be $180-$200K i'd say

very true, but crucially, and for those with that kind of cash, without the badge

the last Aus delivered R32 GTRs sold for around 80K. Nissan dealers were discounting them down to around mid 50s to get them off the floor and still had a hard time trying to move the last few cars

i seriously doubt Nissan will bother spending the money to homologate an Aus spec car for the handful theyd sell

now that Nissan UK factory Novidem supercharged Z, now thats interesting
http://www.autoblog.com/2006/06/29/nissan-...z-gt-s-concept/

 

[nissanslave]

actually there was very little problem selling the r32s and they didnt have to be discounted.

nissan australia really wants nissan to bring in the GTR to australia. it will need a few things changed to be within the relevant ADR's but it is going to be worth their while.

plus they didn't sell for 80k, they were 120k retail

 

[nang3]

actually there was very little problem selling the r32s and they didnt have to be discounted.

nissan australia really wants nissan to bring in the GTR to australia. it will need a few things changed to be within the relevant ADR's but it is going to be worth their while.

plus they didn't sell for 80k, they were 120k retail

thats what i thought too??? although maybe like domino said the last Aus delivered ones didnt sell that well.. although from what i rmemeber there was only 100 or 110 or so available anyway

 

[nissanslave]

thats what i thought too??? although maybe like domino said the last Aus delivered ones didnt sell that well.. although from what i rmemeber there was only 100 or 110 or so available anyway

the dealership i work at had no problems selling them

and will probably have no problem selling the 2008 aus ones either

 

[Domino]

the dealership i work at had no problems selling them

and will probably have no problem selling the 2008 aus ones either

source - http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/car-review/ce5004.aspx

"In 1991 and to capitalise on the car's competition success, Nissan Oz imported a batch of road-going GT-Rs. Just 100 of the 2.6-litre, twin-turboed 'six' with 4WD and four-wheel steer were in the first boatload and priced at $107,000 each. At a time when the cheapest Porsche 911 in the book was worth a neat $60,000 more than the Nissan, hopes were high that those 100 'Zillas would be sold within minutes of word spreading. It didn't happen. At the end of 1992 and coinciding with the car's banishment from Touring Car competition the sales tally stood at 67 cars and Nissan announced that no more would be imported. Officially, anyway."

the remaining 33 cars were HEAVILY discounted. The important point to note was Nissan Aus made a loss on these cars

"For Nissan Australia, the dominance of J. Richards and M. Skaife in their Garry Rogers-prepared and 'Anyhow*' sponsored GT-Rs was largely a waste of effort. Despite the publicity generated by Richards' succinct character assessment of the Neanderthals who booed his 1992 Bathurst success, sales of Nissans in general and GT-Rs in particular maintained their downward spiral."

so will Nissan Aus give it another shot? with an even more expensive car, and entering a market where badge cache is at it's greatest and good residuals on premium euro cars have even the most humble accountants behind the wheel of leased 911s, M3s, AMGs and Boxsters........

 

[scathing]

so will Nissan Aus give it another shot? with an even more expensive car, and entering a market where badge cache is at it's greatest and good residuals on premium euro cars have even the most humble accountants behind the wheel of leased 911s, M3s, AMGs and Boxsters........

I reckon they want to. Its not 1992 anymore, and Japanese cars don't have the same stigma they did back then. If Hyundai was to release a $150,000 sports car that could decimate GT-Rs and Porsche 911's then it probably wouldn't sell, since Korean cars still have the image problems the Japanese did back then.

Ironically I think its Lexus that will make the GT-R viable. Toyota proved that Japanese manufacturers can stick it to the Europeans in upmarket production cars, and the GT-R's fame is far higher now thanks to a wealth of grey imports and Gran Turismo.

Whether they will is another question or not. 350Z notwithstanding, Nissan is still the "Pulsar & Maxima" company. They built their reputation on cardigan cars that commute well, and it shows in their lack of visible interest in local motorsport. Nissan Australia won't launch a Nismo brand even though HSV / FPV proved there is a market for factory tuner cars, something that Mitsubishi and Subaru have both done locally (to smaller extents).

 

[dave]

476 hp eh? Sounds about right for the GT-R. I didn't know that that info was on Nissan's AU site. Moved this thread to the Nissan GT-R forum btw, that way other members can jump in the bandwagon too. :cheers:
Pretty cool link they got here: http://www.nissan.com.au/enews/editions/20...x.htm#article04

 

[nissanslave]

source - http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/car-review/ce5004.aspx

"In 1991 and to capitalise on the car's competition success, Nissan Oz imported a batch of road-going GT-Rs. Just 100 of the 2.6-litre, twin-turboed 'six' with 4WD and four-wheel steer were in the first boatload and priced at $107,000 each. At a time when the cheapest Porsche 911 in the book was worth a neat $60,000 more than the Nissan, hopes were high that those 100 'Zillas would be sold within minutes of word spreading. It didn't happen. At the end of 1992 and coinciding with the car's banishment from Touring Car competition the sales tally stood at 67 cars and Nissan announced that no more would be imported. Officially, anyway."

the remaining 33 cars were HEAVILY discounted. The important point to note was Nissan Aus made a loss on these cars

"For Nissan Australia, the dominance of J. Richards and M. Skaife in their Garry Rogers-prepared and 'Anyhow*' sponsored GT-Rs was largely a waste of effort. Despite the publicity generated by Richards' succinct character assessment of the Neanderthals who booed his 1992 Bathurst success, sales of Nissans in general and GT-Rs in particular maintained their downward spiral."

so will Nissan Aus give it another shot? with an even more expensive car, and entering a market where badge cache is at it's greatest and good residuals on premium euro cars have even the most humble accountants behind the wheel of leased 911s, M3s, AMGs and Boxsters........

that may be true about the heavy discounts, but depending on where you bought it from. the dealership i am at was one of the 3 authorised outlets for the gtr and sold around 60 of them, and at no point were they discounted. not trying to create an argument or anything, just letting you know we never chopped them up for quick sale

 

[KingOfStreets]

Around 470HP? Wow AUS knows before anyone else how much HP the new GT-R is going to get! I hope its under $70k, because anything over that probably needs a nicer badge.

 

[scathing]

Moved this thread to the Nissan GT-R forum btw, that way other members can jump in the bandwagon too.

I'm just going to remind our international readers that this thread was in the Australian forum.

So when you see people like me estimating that the car will be $180K, that's Australian dollars for the Australian market.....where a 350Z Track with the RAYS rims (optional down here, standard in the US) costs around AUD$70K.

So don't reply with "$150,000 for a GT-R? You're crazy! It won't cost more than $60-65K" please. :cheers: