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Hi all

I have been reading the discussions regarding upgrading the stock stereo over the past few months and have finally taken the plunge and ordered my new setup!

I have gone for the Kenwood DDX-6029 with additional BlueTooth and Ipod adaptors (approx £600 total).

I have a 2005 350Z GT Roadster which has the 7-speaker Bose.

I ordered the PAC ROEM-NIS2 off Ebay last week and apparently it has arrived this morning (I am at work currently so will find out when I get home!!) so I can now begin my install.

Just one question before I start dismantling the dash etc. - do I need an adaptor for the antenna as I don't want to find this out once everything is out and have to either:

a) put it all back together to drive to the shop
b) leave it all hanging out while I drive to the shop
c) take my wife's (nasty) Renault Scenic to the shop!!!!!

I will also (hopefully) be posting some photos of the process to give people confidence in upgrading their stock Bose system as I have been a bit nervous so far as there doesn't seem to be much information about the Bose adaptor from PAC.

Thanks for any other advice you guys can give me!
 

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No antenna adapter will be needed. Please do post pictures and a writeup on how everything goes. I know everyone has different problems with the Bose and different solutions. This sounds like it will work great though.
 

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Hey Toykilla - thanks for the vote of confidence!

I now have everything I need (I think) including your instructions for dismantling the dash!

Just one more question before I go for it tomorrow......

Any idea if the double din unit will slot into the cubby above the current stereo as I would prefer to hide it from prying eyes?!? If so, what would you do with the current stereo? Leave it there as a dummy to fool would-be thieves as they would surely not steal the Bose ay?

Thanks again....
 

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yes there are ways to put ur hu in that spot above the stock hu placement. as for look unless u do some fiberglass work for the center console it would look best to leave the stock hu in the spot since there are no covers available to cover the space that there would be
 

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Hey Toykilla - thanks for the vote of confidence!

I now have everything I need (I think) including your instructions for dismantling the dash!

Just one more question before I go for it tomorrow......

Any idea if the double din unit will slot into the cubby above the current stereo as I would prefer to hide it from prying eyes?!? If so, what would you do with the current stereo? Leave it there as a dummy to fool would-be thieves as they would surely not steal the Bose ay?

Thanks again....
I highly doubt it would fit. You could look once you pull the dash apart though.
 

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From what I have read its not possible to install a double din HU in the cubby. However, if you dont care much for your old Bose HU you can tear it up and create a fake faceplate. Install 4 small magnets in each corner and in the dash kit and presto your done. A guy done this on another 350Z forum did it and it came out well. However, you need to be well versed in using a dremel.

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I will have a look when I get the dash out this afternoon.

And, my fiberglass skills are a bit lacking so I would definitely leave the old HU in?!
 

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Hey Keith,

I just realised what you meant about the dremel etc. You mean stick the Bose 'faceplate' over the top of the new screen that I install in the double din slot making it look like the old Bose is still in there. That's a top idea mate and I checked on Ebay and a Bose only went for about £70 so it would be no big loss to re-use it in this way!!!

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OK guys - need some help!!!!

I managed to remove the dash without any problems thanks to Toykilla's instructions - so thanks for that mate - very helpful and accurate!!

I got everything wired up using the PAC ROEM-NIS2 and all looked pretty good so connected up the Kenwood and............

......NOTHING!!!

So I gave in and read the manual and the only thing I found was that you should press the reset button after installing.......

......still NOTHING........

So I got my tester kit out and started by checking the Battery (yellow) and Ground (Black) wires to see if there was anything there. I traced it through each of the connections right back to the source wires from the Z and there was still nothing. I was a bit worried at this point that I had screwed something up so reconnected the Bose to make sure and all was well!!!

Just to be sure I checked my tester kit on the battery and that was fine.

Then decided to make sure the ground wire was connected by using the yellow wire and a connection to the chassis and the tester lit up nicely! Turns out the black ground wire wasn't actually doing anything - is this normal????

I remembered after doing an install a few years ago that the antenna needed to be plugged in to provide the ground connection so checked this with my tester and the antenna was grounded as expected. I hadn't connected the antenna earlier as the cable is quite short and didn't think it was required so connected this up and suddenly the Kenwood burst into life!

Next problem was there was no sound output!!!! I tried a DVD, CD and Tuner but all with no output. The DVD/CD showed as playing so presumed the HU could read the discs no problem.

I grounded the brake connection and the DVD also played ok but still with no sound.

More testing.........

.....dug out an old speaker and connected it at each of the connections to check where the sound was going amiss and it seems that there is sound on the entry to the PAC ROEM-NIS2 (the OEM-1 bit) but nothing coming out and to the speakers etc.

So, here is where I am at currently - does this sound like a faulty OEM-1 or is there something I'm not doing???

My plan for the morning is to bypass the OEM-1 etc. and connect the HU straight to the speakers/amp etc. Will this cause any problems or won't I know until I try it???

Thanks again for any advice!
 

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Just spotted this in the FAQs on the PAC website........

Question: 2000 Tahoe (may pertain to other GM SUV's also), when installing an aftermarket stereo, there is no sound coming from the factory speakers and subwoofer.
Answer: Connect the aftermarket stereo's remote wire (blue/wht wire) to the pink wire in the factory 9 pin connector.

Could this be my problem too?? Do I need to connect the blue/white wire somewhere?
 

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OK guys - it's now 1:21am in the UK and I've spent the last hour searching around for some ideas on my mistake!!

Turns out it is the Amp Turn On wire that I hadn't connected up correctly. I've just been to try it and all is well once more. Can't check the sound quality yet though as everyone in the house is asleep!!!

I will check it out in the morning and finish off the install hopefully. Shouldn't be any more problems now as I only have the Ipod and the Bluetooth adaptors to fit which even I can manage I think! Only issue will be where to hide all the wires!!!!

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Good to hear everything is working for you. Yea, the Antenna is the ground in the Bose system & that wire is probably to switch on the Bose Amp. But remember...

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:cheers:
 

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Morning guys

I have been taking photos as I have been going along so will be posting these either tonight or tomorrow some time - there's this inconvenience called work that keeps taking up all my time!!

I'm just off into the garage to add the ipod and bluetooth and re-fit everything into the dash so I can take my final photos.

Thanks for all your support so far.

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Yahoooooo!!!

Everything has gone in perfectly with a bit of shuffling of cables and the boxes for the Ipod and Bluetooth adaptor but all-in-all I am very pleased with the result so far.

The sound quality seems pretty good to me too - although I am no audio expert I'm sure it sounds at least as good as it did before!

Just a couple of things before I take my final photo though......

The bezel(?) that Kenwood provide for the Nissan is about 1mm too tall?! So I currently have a gap around the unit which obviously makes it look very poor! I took the bezel to my local audio shop and they want (wait for it....) £120 + VAT to skim it and fit it!?!?!! 4 (yes 4!!) hours work!?
I therefore looked at the Metra dash kit but it looks as though the part I may use has a divider across the middle - is this true? And, if so, can that be trimmed off easily? I think I would like to try this before spending another £120!!

Also, the phone interface has stopped letting me make calls from the unit, but, if I make the call from my phone the unit picks this up, mutes any audio and puts the phone audio through the speakers as expected and everything seems fine. This did work OK when I first installed the unit so I think I may have changed a setting without realising. The manual is a bit lacking in this area so any advice would be most useful.

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Here is the Kenwood DDX6029 in place - as I said, just need the surround sorting out to hide the gap.......


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....more pics to follow......
 

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OK guys - here goes with some photos......

Firstly, I used Toykilla's instructions for removing the dash etc. - this was fairly straight forward to follow.....

Once the old HU is out you will see three white connectors and the antenna......

[attachment=17814:350zwiring1.jpg] [attachment=17815:350zwiring2.jpg]

(Sorry for the quality on these - couldn't get the focus quite right!!)


Next, the three items that come with the PAC ROEM-NIS2.....

[attachment=17816:pac_oem_1.JPG] [attachment=17817:amp_nis2.JPG] [attachment=17818:rad_unv.JPG]


As you will see the AMP-NIS2 has two female connectors that connect to two of the white 350Z connectors. The other end of the AMP-NIS2 connects to the OEM-1 black box - one end has 16 pins, the other 18 pins so you can't plug them in the wrong end!!!

Then you have the RAD-UNV which has a plug on one end and bare wires the other. The plug connects to the OEM-1 black box.

You then need to wire the bare wires to the connections on the back of the new HU. The Kenwood I have uses standard ISO wiring so I dug out an old ISO adaptor I had and chopped off the plug.......

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All of the colours on this adaptor matched the RAD-UNV perfectly - but I would not just take this for granted. There is a wiring colour chart included with the RAD-UNV and the ISO harness has detail written on each wire so it should be easy to match them up if the colours don't match!


The ISO harness then plugs directly into the new HU.

All of the wiring fitted so far fitted pretty well behind the new HU as there is quite a bit of room there.


Finally, the Bluetooth phone adaptor also plugs directly into the HU and the iPod adaptor plugs into the Bluetooth adaptor. I put these two adaptors underneath the HU, behind the gear stick as that sat nicely there. I ran the mic from the Bluetooth up to the side of the HU.....


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Also ran the iPod connector up into the cubby....

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Now here's some pics of the Kenwood interfaces....

Menu.....

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Hands-free bluetooth......

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Tuner.....

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I think that is about it!!! I ordered the Metra kit last week so hopefully should be here this week. I will add some final pics once this is installed.
 

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I'm still waiting on my Metra kit but spotted some pics of others and it looks like it will be worth waiting for!!

I decided while I was waiting that I would get the navigation unit Kenwood KNA-G520 - got it brand new off Ebay for £400.

It's arrived today so decided to have a go at installing as it looks pretty simple.

But, after connecting everything up except the parking sw, reverse and speed sensor I get no option on the HU to see the navigation.

I tried grounding the parking switch to see if this helps but still nothing!!!

Can anyone help me as I have no idea what else to try......

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