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^^^ I figured the reactionaries here would like that. Obama increased the war effort in Afghanistan and has kept some American personnel in Iraq. He supported bombing Lybia. He compromised so much on the Health Care Plan that it is a shell of the One Payer System we should have, and which every other Westernized democracy in the world already has. He caved in on closing Guantanamo Bay. He caved in on trying the 9/11 terrorists in New York. He followed Bush's lead in connection with the bank bailout. He didn't hold Wall Street and the big banks responsible for the great Recession--no one was prosecuted. He compromised and cow-towed to the Republicans during his first two years, when he had big majorities in both houses of Congress and could have rammed his agenda through. He is a moderate to somewhat conservative Democrat and has been an utter disappointment as President, promising way more than he has delivered. In November, I will hold my nose and vote for him because he's better than whoever the Republicans put up.

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Can you name one presidential candidate in our lifetime who was NOT a megalomaniac? And keep in mind that Hillary stayed in the race much later than this and she apparently had no intentions of ever running again. I don't like Santorum, way too conservative for my tastes but he is no different than most. Now Gingrich - there is one guy who I can't figure out for the life of me why he hasn't dropped out.
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LOL. I know this comes as shock to many Americans, especially conservative ones, but there really isn't much of a political Left in the United States. Our country's political spectrum pretty much swings from slightly left of center to fairly far Right. With the "middle" being right of center.

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Can you name one presidential candidate in our lifetime who was NOT a megalomaniac? And keep in mind that Hillary stayed in the race much later than this and she apparently had no intentions of ever running again. I don't like Santorum, way too conservative for my tastes but he is no different than most. Now Gingrich - there is one guy who I can't figure out for the life of me why he hasn't dropped out.
Anyone who runs for Prez has to have a huge ego to think they can go the distance and win it. Of course, they surround themselves with worshippers who tell them that anything is possible.

Gingrich is just plain crazy and doesn't know how to take good advice if it bit him in the ass.

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In November, I will hold my nose and vote for him because he's better than whoever the Republicans put up.
I'm with you. There's no way I'm voting for any of the Republicans this year.

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So the man broke damn near every campaign platform he ran on, ran up trillions more in debt, tells the Russians he will be more flexible with them after the election, and you are going to vote for him again. Sure - makes perfect sense. For a sheep.

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So the man broke damn near every campaign platform he ran on, ran up trillions more in debt, tells the Russians he will be more flexible with them after the election, and you are going to vote for him again. Sure - makes perfect sense. For a sheep.
The choice is to vote for Mr. 1%. More like Mr. 0.000001%. Do you really think the Mormon Daddy Warbucks has your interests at heart?

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I'm a Libertarian - I don't want anyone to have my best interests at heart I want to be left alone. No party has done a damn thing for my small business, or me personally in 28 years now, and we have survived just fine. If more American's would get off their dead asses and fend for themselves, we would be much better off. And the fact that Romney is a Mormon matters to me not a whit. As far as him being Daddy Warbucks, I don't care either - I can't remember the last valid candidate who was not much richer than most of us. I don't buy into that 1% - 99% crap anyway. I am part of the 1% by the loonies definition and make no apologies for it. That is not to say I will vote for him - I'm no different than you in that regard in that it comes down to the least of the worst. Per usual.....

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Libertarianism is a lot like communism... a good idea until you actually try to apply it to real living breathing people.

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And Ron Paul is sooooo conservative that he's liberal.

Understeer is when you hit the wall with the front of the car and oversteer is when you hit the wall with the rear of the car.

Horsepower is how fast you hit the wall, torque is how far you take the wall with you.

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