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I will hope for 3200lbs, but will be happy with 3400, but I'm afraid it'll be in the realms of 3600+ I'm expecting the worse, in regards to weight.

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I will hope for 3200lbs, but will be happy with 3400, but I'm afraid it'll be in the realms of 3600+ I'm expecting the worse, in regards to weight.
Skeptical? You're setting yourself up to be mildly surprised. I think you're trying reverse psychology on yourself.

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I read on r35gtr.com this quote.

It will be superior to almost anything if it gets that weight! But, yes I am very skeptical.


Holiday Auto reported that the car should weigh in at 1390kg or 3058 pounds. The engine for the Nissan GTR had been decided once the car had finished testing. A VQ32DETT generating an estimated 480ps @ 7,200rpm, 58.0kg/m @ 5,200rpm. The transmission was chosen as well, a 7 speed Getrag sequential transmission, which is sure to be overpowering. The Nissan GTR will be a 2 door coupe, with 4 bucket seats(preferably Recaro).


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I read on r35gtr.com this quote.

It will be superior to almost anything if it gets that weight! But, yes I am very skeptical.
Holiday Auto reported that the car should weigh in at 1390kg or 3058 pounds. The engine for the Nissan GTR had been decided once the car had finished testing. A VQ32DETT generating an estimated 480ps @ 7,200rpm, 58.0kg/m @ 5,200rpm. The transmission was chosen as well, a 7 speed Getrag sequential transmission, which is sure to be overpowering. The Nissan GTR will be a 2 door coupe, with 4 bucket seats(preferably Recaro).
hmm.. getrag is an old school technology and they'll have something much more advanced. I don't thing get rag had torque splitting technology from left to right. I'll bet $5.99 that we'll have one for the new gt-r. With 3058 lbs, I'll be extremely happy, prancing around, throwing rose pedals, but I very much doubt it. Like I said, we can all hope

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Doesn't it almost seem impossible for the GT-R to weigh in at low 3,000lbs, let alone under 3,000lbs?...The closest competitor is the Porsche 997 TT, it is AWD, Twin Turbo and weighs over 3,400lbs. Porsche is always focused on low weight and they didn't get it done. The new light-weight GT3 weighs low 3,000lbs, but it is only RWD and non turbo (very spartan interior). The GT-R is suppose to have a host of gadgets. It's going to be a miracle if they achieve the target weight goals!
The 997 Turbo isn't exactly a lightweight, but we all know that. The thing is, while the Turbo is often hailed as Porsche's ultimate sports 911, it really isn't. It's more of a GT car. The Turbo models are actually pretty cushy and have lots of amenities. The 997 Turbo would likely have gone up quite a bit in weight were it not for the use of aluminum in a few crucial areas such as the doors. In fact, the lightweight materials keep the weight pretty much identical to the 996 Turbo. The true hardcore and lightweight 911s are the GT2 and GT3, although most of their weight savings come from offering less equipment than the Turbo(no awd, etc).

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Even if the new GT-R is made of all Carbon Fiber I don't see them getting to that weight target unless they go RWD and the car is as small if not smaller than a RX-7.
Rumors about the GT-R point to some body panels being carbon fiber(comewhat confirmed by care carbon on the GT-R Proto), and the rest being aluminum. That would give the GT-R a substantial head start over the 911, which uses mostly steel and just a bit of aluminum. I'll have to do more research, but I am curious as to whether Porsche's H6 is aluminum or iron block. If the latter is the case, then the GT-R's aluminum VQ powerplant should provide another weight advantage.

Another issue is that the 997 Turbo is using electronic awd for the first time. Not to say that Porsche is an amateur in the world of awd, but Nissan has had ATTESA-ETS/PRO for years. Nissan's greater experience means that not only can they make a better system, but also a lighter one. Who knows, maybe Nissan will surprise us by ditching ATTESA for e4wd(making the car mostly RWD), which weighs even less(less than half the wieght of ATTESA) and offers better response and no drivetrain loss.

The GT-R won't be too big of a car, either. With the FM platform, it's easy for Nissan to use different sizes. The GT-R will probably be shorter than the V35/V36 Skylines, but still a hair longer than the Z33 Fairlady Z. The mule and two concepts hint that the GT-R will be much wider than even the wide track CPV35 and Z33 FM variants.
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The 997 Turbo isn't exactly a lightweight, but we all know that. The thing is, while the Turbo is often hailed as Porsche's ultimate sports 911, it really isn't. It's more of a GT car. The Turbo models are actually pretty cushy and have lots of amenities. The 997 Turbo would likely have gone up quite a bit in weight were it not for the use of aluminum in a few crucial areas such as the doors. In fact, the lightweight materials keep the weight pretty much identical to the 996 Turbo. The true hardcore and lightweight 911s are the GT2 and GT3, although most of their weight savings come from offering less equipment than the Turbo(no awd, etc).
Rumors about the GT-R point to some body panels being carbon fiber(comewhat confirmed by care carbon on the GT-R Proto), and the rest being aluminum. That would give the GT-R a substantial head start over the 911, which uses mostly steel and just a bit of aluminum. I'll have to do more research, but I am curious as to whether Porsche's H6 is aluminum or iron block. If the latter is the case, then the GT-R's aluminum VQ powerplant should provide another weight advantage.

Another issue is that the 997 Turbo is using electronic awd for the first time. Not to say that Porsche is an amateur in the world of awd, but Nissan has had ATTESA-ETS/PRO for years. Nissan's greater experience means that not only can they make a better system, but also a lighter one. Who knows, maybe Nissan will surprise us by ditching ATTESA for e4wd(making the car mostly RWD), which weighs even less(less than half the wieght of ATTESA) and offers better response and no drivetrain loss.

The GT-R won't be too big of a car, either. With the FM platform, it's easy for Nissan to use different sizes. The GT-R will probably be shorter than the V35/V36 Skylines, but still a hair longer than the Z33 Fairlady Z. The mule and two concepts hint that the GT-R will be much wider than even the wide track CPV35 and Z33 FM variants.
I'm a big fan of the GT2 and GT3 because of the 'hardcore' mentality behind it. Yes, it may have less 'power' than the other models, but ever since I first saw one and read into it, I was impressed and kinda fell in love. I'd buy the GT2 or 3 over a 997 anyday.

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I'm a big fan of the GT2 and GT3 because of the 'hardcore' mentality behind it. Yes, it may have less 'power' than the other models, but ever since I first saw one and read into it, I was impressed and kinda fell in love. I'd buy the GT2 or 3 over a 997 anyday.
All Porsches are great, but if you say you buy one over a 997 that just means you haven't driven a 997. The new 997 GT3 is extremely impressive being a N/A 415HP Boxer 6. I own both a 997 and 996 currently. My 997 is a "S" variant. A sleeper Porsche if you ask me. Looks very subtle until you get on it, 0-60mph in 3.9secs and 1/4 in 12.3 at 114MPH. Tested by two diff mags.

Porsche motors are aluminum for those who don't know.

I see the GT-R as a GT car as well, just like the 911 Turbos.

I think the GT-R should stay AWD, as that is its heritage and it shouldn't stray from that. Keep at what its good at. I wouldn't mind seeing variations of the GT-R, like a light weight RWD model (but still keep the AWD model).


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I'm a big fan of the GT2 and GT3 because of the 'hardcore' mentality behind it. Yes, it may have less 'power' than the other models, but ever since I first saw one and read into it, I was impressed and kinda fell in love. I'd buy the GT2 or 3 over a 997 anyday.
Huh? The GT2 and GT3 are the most powerful models available, the GT2 leading the turbocharged 911 category, and the GT3 making the most power for the NA 911s.

The '997' is a chassis/generation desgnation, much like the use of R32, R33, R34 for the Skylines. The 997 will have GT2 and GT3 variants as well, each better than their 996 generation predecessors.
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Latest Specs on the GT-R so far is engine capacities from 3.2-3.8 liter. The engine from what I can see will be VQ based, although a new engine may be possible as the new GT-R has been worked on since 2001, although it will probably have the basic block of the VQ with 80% or more new headwork done to it, which suggests that maybe the VQ35HR with TT and some more work done to it may be the new GT-R engine. Car should have FR transaxel, V6 twin turbo, front wheels driven by electric motors with Li-Ion batteries, 7-speed sequential box and new advanced electronic Super ATESSA system with each wheel controlled independently for torque, as well as for braking assist.
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