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post #11 of 37 (permalink) Old 07-28-2006, 11:49 PM
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Are you saying we need professional help because of our curiosity?
LOL I have no idea what you mean by that, but no, everyone is curious still as some people don't know the new GT-R has been dropped of its R and Skyline traits!
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the chassis code is the entire deal. she's not R35. nor V36. this has been a hot topic of speculation and debate and is at the core of the issue, nearly as much, if not moreso, than the engine.

it will be referred to by it's chassis code just as the prior GTRs were. i don't understand how, being a fan of the car, you do not see this. magazine covers will feature this code as they have always done for prior GTRs.

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Don't get me wrong, I know the influence the chassis code has. Of course they (mags) will refer to it, but in the general I'm saying in the past, the R designation was more important. But now that its gone, we basically have only GT-R--and the chassis code. So in a way, your right, in saying that now in the future we will rely more on defining it with the chassis code, as really that is all we have to distinguish it from prior cars. Nissan BNC36 GTR, nice ring to it, but who decided that this code was final?
The SCC and Edmunds post stuff from random speculative Japanese Mags, which aren't the most reliable. I'm not sure if this is the final chassis code.
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i dont get why you all think it cant be r35?

it very well could be.
it probably wont be z or v. but it could still be r.
the rumors about c are just that- rumors.

i dont believe those rumors for a number of reasons, but mainly:
1. the C designation has been in use for some time with the Laurel. Although this vehicle has shared skyline parts over time, this car is not a skyline, much less GT-R.
2. There was never a C/Laurel coupe. This car was not about performance in that sense.
3. The last Laurel was the C35. Why would they make a C36 before they made an R35? that would make no sense. its like saying the next GT-R is a successor to the Laurel which is completely illogical.

if I had to bet, I'd bet on R35.
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i dont get why you all think it cant be r35?

it very well could be.
it probably wont be z or v. but it could still be r.
the rumors about c are just that- rumors.

i dont believe those rumors for a number of reasons, but mainly:
1. the C designation has been in use for some time with the Laurel. Although this vehicle has shared skyline parts over time, this car is not a skyline, much less GT-R.
2. There was never a C/Laurel coupe. This car was not about performance in that sense.
3. The last Laurel was the C35. Why would they make a C36 before they made an R35? that would make no sense. its like saying the next GT-R is a successor to the Laurel which is completely illogical.

if I had to bet, I'd bet on R35.
No way it's going to have an R designation, I mean, Nissan has never ever mentioned it to be nothing more than just "Nissan GT-R". Of course it might have one, but we don't know that, and it certainly can't be R35 since we've jumped past it, the next one would be R36 if anything. But trust me that it's just going to be Nissan GT-R. Nissan has made the strategy now to label their cars like FX, Z, and GT-R series. They don't explicitly say FX35, FX45, etc although we know there are two different models based on several factors. Maybe there is a possibility of this, because there have been different versions of basically the same GT-R, so who knows, but if anything, they will leave the R designation out and just use V Spec, V Spec II--like this: 2009 Nissan GT-R V-Spec II. That's what I believe will occur, not 2009 Nissan GT-R R-3x.
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No way it's going to have an R designation, I mean, Nissan has never ever mentioned it to be nothing more than just "Nissan GT-R".
first off, every car has a chassis code. nissan hasn't referred to the 2007 g35 as the v36 but we all know that's its chassis designation. the gt-r will have a chassis designation for sure. the fact that they havent said that its r35 doesnt mean that it wont be, because they havent said anything else (c36) either.

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Of course it might have one, but we don't know that,
all nissan cars have chassis codes. the sentras were the b13,14,etc. the maximas are a3# series i believe, the z are the z3#, the skylines are now the v3#...

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and it certainly can't be R35 since we've jumped past it, the next one would be R36 if anything.
nissan didnt jump past anything. the last gt-r was the r34 which ended production in 2002. there hasnt been a gt-r since. the skyline, starting in 02 has been seperated from the gt-r. the skyline following the r34 became the v35. if anything they just took a break with the gt-r. in which case, look at the 350z. they took a break between the z32 and z33 but that didnt stop them from calling it the z33.

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But trust me that it's just going to be Nissan GT-R.
i agree. they dont call the 350z the Z33 anywhere. its either Fairlady Z or 350Z, depending on your location/market.

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Nissan has made the strategy now to label their cars like FX, Z, and GT-R series. They don't explicitly say FX35, FX45, etc although we know there are two different models based on several factors.
fx35 is not an internal chassis code/designation. it's a product name. the two are completely seperate. they call the USDM Nissan Skyline CPV35 the Infiniti G35 Coupe, not the V35. Yet, if you look in the engine bay you will see that it's model code is V35.

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Maybe there is a possibility of this,
it's definite that the new gt-r will have a designation..

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because there have been different versions of basically the same GT-R, so who knows, but if anything, they will leave the R designation out and just use V Spec, V Spec II--like this: 2009 Nissan GT-R V-Spec II. That's what I believe will occur, not 2009 Nissan GT-R R-3x.
i think you're confusing product names for model/chassis codes. the product name has already been given to us: the nissan gt-r. the chassis code has not, and i'd argue that there's no reason why it couldn't be v35.
here's how I look at it:

the GT-R and the Skyline shared the R32-34 designations
in 2002 the Skyline seperated from the GT-R, so it became the V35. The 2007 model is the V36.
the next GT-R could very well continue to become the R35 since it is now no longer considered a variant.

some might think that the R35/V36 difference can't happen since that would imply two different generations... but that's not the case. The Z33 coexists with the V35. That number is meaningless beyond seperating one generation from another of the same series (letter).
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I'm just referring to the R designation, I wasn't talking about the chassis code.
Nissan can't produce an R35, since it would have to have been released during the time of the V35 Skyline, which was 2003. Obviously they went ahead with producing a V35 much too soon, and since they've waited so long and NOW we are in the stage of development for the V36 Skyline, the line should include R36 not R35. They had a strict timeline for the releases of the GT-R, and I remember distinctly a page on Nissan saying R36, but that was in 2004. Clearly, they changed everything around. I think they can't use anything R related because it has too many ties with prior Skyline GTR's, and since they are going towards something distinctly new and separate, they have decided just to have it as GT-R. If you think there's a chance of an R35 popping out, that's fine, but mc350z can contest to the opposite like myself. I've talked to more people in the pasts two years, people who are involved in the matter more than any dealer in the U.S. and there isn't going to be no such thing as an R35, Skyline or any remnants of the past whatsoever. It's just GT-R, no contest to the fact.
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I'm just referring to the R designation, I wasn't talking about the chassis code
oh so you're questioning whether or not they'll use the chassis code in the product name?
i doubt it, in the US anyway..

i dont recall them having done it before, and i dont see them doing it now. in japan, they'll probably continue as they have been in the past.
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Don't get me wrong, I know the influence the chassis code has. Of course they (mags) will refer to it, but in the general I'm saying in the past, the R designation was more important. But now that its gone, we basically have only GT-R--and the chassis code. So in a way, your right, in saying that now in the future we will rely more on defining it with the chassis code, as really that is all we have to distinguish it from prior cars. Nissan BNC36 GTR, nice ring to it, but who decided that this code was final?
The SCC and Edmunds post stuff from random speculative Japanese Mags, which aren't the most reliable. I'm not sure if this is the final chassis code.
whatever it is called, it's code will become the new iconic number, every bit as awesome as "R34."

this is my opinion. we all have yet to see what it really is. in my opinion, using the R agaiin would not indicate a new direction for the GTR. it would tie it too much with the R-series, which it shares no platform or parts with. if Nissan is saying all over the place things that allude to "new direction," "beyond performance of any prior GTRs," "new platform," etc. etc.. it seems that the R-series is a thing of the past. but the question is this: is Nissan's heritage ties to the past success and legendary status of the R-series GTRs the very thing that they want to carry ahead, symbolically, in name and spirit?

however, if they did resurrect the R coding (which i have also heard rumors about, too), it would be for heritage sake. and in the possibility that it is actually an "R" again, it would follow to reason, then, that it would exactly be called R35. it would have to be called R35.

yet if the R is dropped, it will not be 35 anything.

indeed, "C36" is a rumor only at this point. but it satisfies many speculations about the case that it cannot be "V," and that the "R" is assumed dropped and of the past. and that "35" is already too late to be used, yet again, for an emerging model years newer than the V35 chassis code. what i'm saying is that "35" now seems passe' and old to be used for a new generation of Nissan, no matter what it is. unless the GTR is R35, as the "R" is a very powerful symbol.

i think we are truly in a dilemma here.

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