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i have done a bit of the heel-toe downshifting tequnique and its very hard to do on the z. the accelerator pedal is farther back than the brake and i have to slam on the brake to bend my heel back far enoughf to get the rpm's high enoughf to slide it down. i dont know why.?? had anyone else had this probelm??


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Yup, I have that problem too so I gave up. I just can&#39;t get it to get it.


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i have done a bit of the heel-toe downshifting tequnique and its very hard to do on the z. the accelerator pedal is farther back than the brake and i have to slam on the brake to bend my heel back far enoughf to get the rpm&#39;s high enoughf to slide it down. i dont know why.?? had anyone else had this probelm??
Hey Warren,

Check this out: Sparco Pedals

I found the 350Z difficult to heel/toe, too. The spacing between the brake and throttle pedal was too wide and my foot would keep slipping off the brake -- not good!

I added just the throttle pedal cover and it did the trick. Now I can use the prefered method of blipping with the side of my foot instead of trying to contort my heel over there. It&#39;s much easer to maintain consistant brake pressure this way.

Better yet, it&#39;s just a bolt on (with the aluminum pedals, anyway) -- no drilling holes required. If you decide it&#39;s not for you, just take it off!

Hope this helps.

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The Z is easy to "heel-toe" in. The reason I put that in quotations, is because you aren&#39;t really heel toeing. You should be using another technique called "Rolling" your foot. Basically, place the ball of your foot on the brake pedal, and roll the rest of your foot onto the throttle to blip as necessary. And practice, practice, practice. This method has worked in every MT production car I have ever driven. Race cars can be different, but the pedals are adjustable.
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o i ddidnt know about that one. i will try it on the way to school tommorow. but i will practice a bit with the car off first!!


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I can use the prefered method of blipping with the side of my foot instead of trying to contort my heel over there. It&#39;s much easer to maintain consistant brake pressure this way.
Its a matter of practice. I used to use the sides of my foot as well, until I bought Speedcats and the shoes weren&#39;t wide enough.

At first I was struggling with changing my heel toe technique, but after a while its become natural. Now I twist the foot around, but I can still do it well enough to run consistently quick circuit times.

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QUOTE (scathing @ Sep 23 2008, 08:54 PM)
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Its a matter of practice. I used to use the sides of my foot as well, until I bought Speedcats and the shoes weren&#39;t wide enough.

At first I was struggling with changing my heel toe technique, but after a while its become natural. Now I twist the foot around, but I can still do it well enough to run consistently quick circuit times.

I have Speedcats, too. They look and feel great, but are very, very narrow. Since I installed the Sparco throttle pedal, I can use the Speedcats without having to adjust my technique.

I&#39;ve been driving the Skip Barber cars and you need to roll your foot in those, so I thought it would be best to fix the spacing in the Z instead of trying to master 2 methods.

I have my hands (or is that feet) full trying to do one method well!

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Yeah, you lose practice if you don&#39;t do it.

For a while I could do both, but as I was wearing Speedcats every day for about half a year I pretty much forgot how to just use the sides of my foot.

Now that I regularly wear AF1&#39;s, I can use the sides of the foot but it feels weird and I&#39;m not getting the timing right.

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In my GSX I could very easily heal toe and rev match my down shifts like a pro ( like I would in a touge race ). With the 350z I find it a little hard with the way the pedals are set up and by the extremely fast throttle response it has compared to the GSX.. I am getting better at the rev matching, 3ed to 2ed I find the hardest.

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+1 for rolling the foot. I find myself doing it pretty much all the time as well. even when driving sedately. keeps the practise in i suppose.

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